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Pagano-Papismus; Or, an Exact Parallel Between Rome-Pagan and Rome-Christian, in Their Doctrines and Ceremonies

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Animadversions on Mr. Seld. Hist. of Tithes, by Rich, Tollesley, printed by John Bill, 1619. in 4 to. Fifthly, you have too much precious work in your hands e­very day, then that you can warrantably lay any part of it a­side, to contend with such an obstinate adversary as Mr. Onley is; and I am verily perswaded, and I assure my self, many that know your various and uncessant pains for the souls of your people of Coventry, are of my mind, that thereby you do more good in a week there, then you shall do by disputing with, or writing against a perverse Anabaptist a whole year toge­ther. First, Whether the Parish Assemblies of England generally be true visible Churches; which Mr. O. denied. WHat was my mind (in answering your request by your Son when he brought you Letter, the Disputation at Kenelmworth, and Mr. O. his Examination of your Reply, after the reading of what you sent me, and writing of these Papers I now send you) in the same I persist with stronger confidence then I had at first; and for it I shall now give you clearer and fuller evidence of the expedience of my Advice then at that time I could do, which was the same that Hezekiah gave to his people concerning railing Sabshtkah, answer him not, a Kings 18.16. and Isa. 36.21. To the VVORSHIPFULL My much Honoured Friend, RIGHARD HOPKINS, Esq; STEWARD of the City of COVENTRY.

Tithes the Churches Right, by the Laws of God, Nature, and this Nation, by Bovil Turminger, for Rich. Lowndes, 1653. in 4 to.The Countryman range - The Condensing Oil Fired Boiler for all outdoor installations. Boasting our unique 5 year warranty this boiler range affords you vital peace of mind. Mr. O. and those of his strain, think they spight the Mini­sters of England much by calling them Priests, Pag. 32. and their Mini­stry a Priesthood, as Mr. O. doth here and * elswhere, in a way of reproch, wherein they bewray both their ignorance and malice: for 1. The Etymologie of the word, it is either from the La­tine word Praeest, he presideth, or the Greek word [...], one set over another; or it is a contraction of the word Priester in Low Dutch, which is a contraction of the word [...] in Greek, signifying an Elder, and so it is a Name of honour; for the Lord hath said, Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the Elder, Lev. 19.32. And that this is at length, what the word Priest is in short, is evident by the al­teration which Archbishop Land made in the old Service-Book of England, when it was to be sent into Scotland; for every where, where the English hath the word Priest, the Scotch Ser­vice-book hath the word Presbyter: nor is the word Priest a word of disparagement in the New Testament, since the word Priest and Priesthood is ascribed to Christ above or about ten times in the Epistle to the Hebrews. CHAP. V. Of the various Issues and Successes of Conferences, Colloquies and Disputations about matters of Religion.

The Anatomy of Ana­nias, or Gods censure against Sacriledge, by R. G. printed by C. L. at Cambridge, 1616. 4 to.

CHAP. VII. Of the Disputation at Kenelmworth, betwixt John Brian Doctor in Divinity, Minister at Coventry, and John Onley Pastor of a Church at Lawford (as he styles himself.) How it was occasioned, undertaken, and continued at divers monthly meetings there. CHAP. X. A Conclusive Answer to Doctor Brians desire of Advice (whether it be better to let Mr. O. alone, or to answer him according to his folly) sent him a good while ago by his Son, but now published with enlargement, for satisfaction of others as well as of the Doctor himself: Reasons many and weighty for the Negagative. Quest. 2. When the Devil had tempted Adam and Eve, or Adam by Eve, to eat the forbidden fruit, what penance did they undergoe, (after they had yielded to the Devil) and were expelled out of Paradise? Sometimes the power which doth authorize the Dispute, lea­veth liberty to the Disputants, by consent, to chuse their Presi­dent or Moderator; So did Sigismond King of Poland to the Trinitarians and Antitrinitarians for their Disputation at Pe­tricovia, Antho. Poss. Biblioth. Sele. Tom. 1. l. 8. c. 13. p. 363. who after some debate, resolved that the President should be chosen by turns one out of each party.

Secondly, With some, custome is a great obstacle against the receiving of truth: and thence it is that those who have been trained up in untruth from their Child-hood, are with greatest difficulty convinced of it, or converted from it. We may see the refractoriness of this resistance in Peter, Acts 10. who, when v. 12,13. a vision was presented unto him, shewing him several kinds of creatures, clean and unclean, and he had a command to kill and eat, v. 13. Not so v. 14. Lord (said he) why so Peter? he gives this reason of his refusal, though the command came from Heaven; because of his customary forbear­ance of forbidden meats, I have never eaten any thing that is common and unclean. Die revolutionären Bestrebungen der Massen richteten sich nicht nur gegen den römischen Papismus, sondern in viel höherem Maße gegen die gesellschaftliche Ungleichheit und die Vorrechte der Reichen und Mächtigen.Sixthly, And oft times it falls out, that by the subtilty or elo­quence of Disputants, when they are somewhat evenly match­ed, the Auditory is kept pendulous, or irresolute; even he, perhaps, for whose sake the Dispute or Conference was under­taken, as Ille cujus causa in con­gressum de­scendis Scrip­turarum, ut cum dubitantem confirmes ad veritatem an nagis ad haeresim deverget, hoc ipso motus, quod te videat nihil promovisse aequo gradu negandi & defendendi, certe de pari & altercatione incertior discedit, nesciens quem Haereticum judicet. Ter [...]ul. prae­script. advers. haereticos Tom. 1. c. 18. p. 170. Tertull. sheweth; He, saith Tertullian, for whose cause thou descendest into a Controversie of Scripture, that thou maist confirm him against doubting, it is hard to say whether he tend more to Verity or to Heresie, because he sees thou pre­vailest nothing, the dispute going on in an equal degree of denying and defending: certainly by such a parity in altercation he will depart more uncertain, not knowing what he should judge to be Heresie. Secondly, I suspected your confidence in committing the copy of your dispute to his publication by the Press, would be abused by him, and so I believe it was more wayes then one, as I have shewed.

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